[Mb-civic] Go easy on Blair

Ian ialterman at nyc.rr.com
Thu Jul 7 17:23:50 PDT 2005


Cheeseburger:

Although I believe it is possible to give a person credit for the "good" 
things s/he does even if s/he is doing "bad" things as well, I must say 
that, otherwise, I find myself in complete agreement with all your comments 
here.  Extemely well-put.

Peace.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Go easy on Blair


> Re:  Go easy on Blair
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> CheeseComment:
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> Chesseburger:
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> Sorry you missed the forest for the tress!
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> I have a feeling I am still living within the heart of the forest looking
> out at people like Bush, Blair, Putin, whomever,smiling for the cameras 
> and
> the Commonweal chopping it down with their political chainsaws faster than
> God himself can replant it.
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> Tony Blair is simply the most effective and modern and reliable elected
> politician in the world today.
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> Blair backed the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Etc illegal murderous push into Iraq
> like it was going out of style, lies, deceptions, bombs, and all.  Perhaps
> he is truly "a great man and leader" at Home looking out for local British
> interests, however there now sit several thousand dead American G.I.'s and
> about 100,000 dead civilian men women and children Iraqis upon his 
> personal
> plate.  If that constitutes "modern and reliable politics in the world
> today", you can keep him, and while you're at it take Bush, Cheney, and
> Rumsfeld off our hands.
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> His vision is democratic; his politics savvy; and his feelings are deeply
> rooted in the commonweal.
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> Again, while this might certainly apply to Local British Affairs,
> internationally, and specifically now Iraq, he reminds me of nothing less
> than a love child of Vladimir Putin and Dick Cheney.
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> How he came to wear the crown of British leadership for so many years; and
> keeping an independent Scots man in charge of the economy and 
> purse-strings
> excites politicos.
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> I am not a politico.  I am outside all their worlds, looking in on them 
> with
> a giant magnifying glass, and all the International Press I can gather on
> their actions.  So far, to me personally, all his "good works at Home" 
> don't
> come close to his "Great Work" he has so bloodily accomplished at the
> expense of a giant pile of dead bodies in Iraq.
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> He moved Labour away from its traditional base with unions into the
> multiplex political centre where turbulence is constant - yet he
> successfully leads a now-minority Anglo Saxon tradition within a polyglot 
> UK
> nation of 100 nationalities and 300 languages.
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> Local British Affairs.  Not interested.  At least not at this exact 
> specific
> moment.  Even extreme tyrants are well-known to come Home, kiss their 
> loving
> wife, tuck their lovely children into bed, say their prayers, and then the
> next morning get on the train and go out and help eliminate another 
> 100,000
> civilians in some far away inconsequential country.
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> He took a hit in popularity over the USA decisions involving Iraq where
> (h)is role (was) politically strategic in a  long standing international
> alliance.
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> That is just too hard to actually stomach as a legitimate statement based 
> in
> reality with thousands of American G.I.s coming home from Iraq in body 
> bags,
> 100,000 civilian men women and children Iraqis murdered in cold blood, and
> international quagmire that has cost the USA personally billions of wasted
> dollars, our almost complete international reputation as a "sane global
> leader", and utter mayhem and chaos in *our* Local Political Arena.
>
> Anyone who would dare explain it all away as "taking a hit in popularity" 
> is
> just obviously either not thinking very clearly about the entire matter, 
> or
> just too in awe of Blair to admit his own flaws which are now blatantly
> apparent despite his "great works".
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> This is not the first time that long standing international alliances and
> politically strategy have cost 100's of thousands, or even millions of
> innocent lives, in concocted wars pulled out of the arses of "The World's
> Great Leaders".
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> Nor will it apparently be the last at this rate of absorbtion of reality.
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> If you have the chance to view the surprisingly successful London
> presentation to the OIC, that was only yesterday a 4-1 loser versus Paris,
> and only last year a no-hope
> chancer, you will gain some insight into the character of a modern spirit
> liberator.
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> The UK "legacy" idea presented, visually and with understated effect,
> worked like the silk strands of a fine cloth, woven to clothe a fine 
> idea -
> for aesthetic impact.
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> London would offer the OIC the opportunity to fashion and craft a legacy 
> for
> the young people of the world, through sport, that will endure into the
> future. This statement was backed by the children on the committee - 
> missing
> were the business men. The presentation went on in language and symbol 
> that
> suits the short attention span of this modern world. The primary 
> beneficiary
> would be the world mission of the OIC itself.
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> Chirac was talking about cuisine!
>
> Leadership like this recalls the savvy Roosevelt in the Great Depression -
> who some say welcomed the Japanese invasion for the decision that was
> already taken and planned. A decision only overshadowed by the decision of
> Truman to end it, not with a whimper - but a bang.
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> Pro-Blair propaganda.
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> I barely have the stomach to give it a thorough reply.
>
> But just for a mild rebriefing, even a fine upstanding "leader" such as
> Arnold Schwarzenneger was appointed by one of our "Fine Presidents" here 
> as
> some kind of "sports representative to all the children of America and the
> world".
>
> He is now governor of California screwing anyone and everyone as fast as 
> he
> can.
>
> I have always disliked the fact that people often point to various
> "Leader"'s benevolent actions such as "Look what he is doing for the
> children!!" or "Look what he is doing for the poor starving Africans", 
> while
> completely ignoring what he just did for say thousands of dead American
> G.I.s and 100,000 dead Iraqi civilian men women and children.
>
> The left hand is glowing with the light of redemption, benevolence, and
> salvation.
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> The right hand is still covered in dripping blood with a few childrens' 
> body
> parts dangling from its fingers.
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> And never the twain shall meet in Heaven.
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> I sometimes enjoy your flippant commentary, but chesseburger, strengthen
> yourself on 'som rosbif'.
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> Dublinjack
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> I am glad that, now and then, I can be somewhat entertaining.
>
> Send lawyers, guns, and money, then I can buy some real rosbif.
>
> What is even more entertaining is that the youthful sportsmanlike 
> appearance
> of Leaders like Putin can actually turn the clock back a few centuries in
> their own countries without being noticed by the common people who become
> mysteriously dazzled by their fake charisma.
>
> What is even further entertaining than that, is that approximately 30
> Percent of All Russian Youth now seriously believe that someone named 
> Stalin
> was one of the literal best Leaders ever to cross their nation's path.
>
> Although I might be completely incorrect, I'm still relatively convinced
> that Blair is nothing more than a midnight love child of Putin and Cheney.
>
> With a pretty face, and with great words, but another midnight lovechild
> nevertheless.
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> Cheeseburger
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