[Mb-civic] Re: Salient Features

richard haase hotprojects at nyc.rr.com
Fri Apr 8 13:54:29 PDT 2005


and i have never gotten into that crap of my race is better than your race;
or that everything is jew jew jew
never ever
first of all im too mixed
to identify with a single race
i hate that crap as much as you do and find it unlistenable
its just that the same logic that is used in an academic discussion of the
nazis not being quite so bad
is being used now as you yourself to have noted
to ameloriate the excreble moral quality of the current far right
who i agree as just as bad etc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Re: Salient Features


> Re:  Salient Features
>
>
>
> Haase wrote:
>
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> =======
> and let us remember to say the nazis killed 6 million people cheapens
their
> attrocities
> the nazis killed 35 - 40 million
> most not jews
> and each non jewish life just as valuable
> you know whats interesting
> how people promoting the up side of hitler
> though the guise of intellectual discussion
> are really nothing but racists?
> at least thats my subjective opinion
> as someone who could have ended up as a lampshade
> with an autistic child who could have been euthenized
> it is my subjective opinion that if there is a hereafter
> all nazis will burn in hell
> just my opinion
>
> richard haase
> jew
> ============
>
>
>
>
> First, I never realized you were a Jew.  If I had, it would have made it
> much more palatable taking the labels of jew hater, holocaust lover, and
> Nazi that were slung around here in the open.
>
> Secondly, while there is certainly nothing to be proud of about Nazism
that
> was in full swing about 60? years ago, I see no mention of Israeli
> atrocities and racism listed above that has been happening ever since we
got
> rid of Hitler.
>
> As far as the above reference to "the Nazis killing only 6 million
people",
> I'll have to hand that one off to "The Jews" for ramming that particular
> number home at every instance through the collective American and World
mind
> for the last 60 years in every television and radio show, newspaper
article,
> and movie that I can remember.  Apparently the other 35-40 million were
> relatively irrelevant in comparison to "The 6 Million", or at least to
them
> personally, or at least to their nationalistic? publicists.
>
> Everyone's race is greater and more nobler than anyone elses.
>
> If you ever doubt it, just ask them, and they'll set you straight on it.
>
> I think part of the articles you read were not trying to unemphasize the
> deadly sickness of people like Hitler, but to rather just show that some
of
> the roots they came from were just presented like just ordinary run of the
> mill "Necessary Social Changes", just like they are being presented today
as
> we forget the 100,000 dead civilian men women and children Iraqis.  That's
> how they started:  "A really cool party and concepts for the people..!!".
> That what they turned into is not in question.  That they were able to
dupe
> and deploy entire nations to do their bidding in the murders of millions
of
> people is a practice that is still in use by major players on Earth even
> today.
>
> America and Israel being just 2 of them currently.
>
> Both have become adept geniuses at manipulating the racist qualities they
> themselves have either bred, fostered, or allowed to grow, in their own
> people, for their own purposes at "The Top".
>
> That such current Racism continues to cost so many innocent civilian
lives,
> trauma, disaster, and irreparable damage to the social thread and order of
> this planet, continues to be lost among their other atrocities which are
no
> longer even reported about for the most part.
>
> You're sitting there talking about Hitler.
>
> I'm sitting here watching Hitler still hard at work but not talking German
> anymore, and flying any other flag almost other than that of The 3rd
Reich.
>
> And nobody blinking an eye.
>
> And people like Bush and Sharon and Etc being lauded as "The New Peace
> Bringers Of Planet Earth", lining up and practicing in front of their
> mirrors for their acceptance speeches when they receive the Nobel Prize
for
> their ghoulish efforts at nobility.
>
> Ok, I've rambled on enough about Current Nazism in the disguise of "People
> Bringing You Freedom" in today's market of death.
>
> I'll just close with the Pope.
>
> I can't imagine Jesus Christ forming a relatively deadly and disgusting
> organization like the Vatican, and appointing such bishops, etc's, and
> Popes, giving them 2 foot tall hats, different colored robes, vast
> political, social, etc powers over the nations, policies, and peoples,
> giving them rings that everyone must kiss in order to be in their
presence,
> and then smiling and passing out the bread and wine and saying "Eat, this
is
> my body, this is my blood".
>
> If he was alive today, Jesus would be pissing on all of their heads, not
> walking sadly by the coffin of just one of a string of leaders of such an
> organization with his head bowed and weeping for the cameras.
>
> Such things as The Vatican, and all their various powers over various
> people's actual lives, not counting al the people they have had murdered
> over all these centuries in the name of God and their demented little
human
> brains, remains one of the last things some little guy named Jesus Christ
> would have ever dreamed of creating in his wildest nightmare.
>
> Nazis...?  Sure, of course, deadly murderous pissants not worthy of the
spit
> off our shoes.
>
> Compared to the New Powers of this New World Order already here and coming
> and getting stronger every day..?  Mere pipsqueaks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
>
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