[Mb-hair] Pappy from Los Angeles
Russ Carlson
redwing at infinet.com
Sat May 28 11:15:49 PDT 2005
Pappy:
Wow great to see a response from you. Boy, it has been a long time since we
have communicated. Sounds like you are a happy mountain man. I'm a happy
midwest guy on Columbus, OH. Still doing show biz stuff, but doing gaffing
and designing in a large production house. Still is fun.
Stay safe,
Rusty Carlson
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4. Re: Missing HAIR Site (Barbara Siomos)
5. Could this really happen? (Barbara Siomos)
6. Its Pappy from Los Angeles (David Hunt)
7. Re: Missing HAIR Site (Little Birdie)
8. Re: bridgeport (Little Birdie)
9. Re: Its Pappy from Los Angeles (Jonathon Johnson)
10. Re: Its Pappy from Los Angeles (Robin McNamara)
11. Fw: Howard Zinn at Spelman (Doris J. Brook)
12. HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE (Charles Preston)
13. Re: HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE (richard haase)
14. Names to match the faces on Bridgeport Site (ace)
15. RE: Its Pappy from Los Angeles (swiggard at comcast.net)
16. Re: HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE (Charles Preston)
17. Re: Fw: Howard Zinn at Spelman (Barbara Siomos)
18. Re: HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE (Barbara Siomos)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: RJ Mac <nycrjmac at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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I tried to get to David James's HAIR site, but the
link I have no longer connects.
Is it off the web?
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:00:43 -0400
From: Michael Butler <michael at michaelbutler.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Bridgeport
To: HAIR List <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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Mark,
Thanks for giving all of us a super time.
I hope you will keep in touch.
Michael
--Those who have experienced altered forms of consciousness, by whatever
means, never forget that space in which they have been. Now that they have
learned how to function within the system, it is time they act to run it. MB
> Hi!!! As a cast member of the recent HAIR at the Downtown Cabaret Theater
> in
> Bridgeport, I just wanted to send out a large heart-felt thank you to all
> of
> those who came and saw us in our final weekend. It was so wonderful
> getting
> to meet and talk with you all, however briefly between our shows that
> evening. It was also lovely to see the passion you all have for this piece
> of art, and each other. Take care, and thanks again for supporting us!
> -Mark-
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:06:14 -0400
From: "Amerifilm Casting, Inc." <info at amerifilmcasting.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] bridgeport
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Mark, you guys were all great in the show. And thanks for sending me
your head shot. I hope all the other performers do too.
Meredith
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:41:48 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
To: RJ Mac <nycrjmac at yahoo.com>, mb-hair at islandlists.com
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RJ.... do you mean the old Jabberwocky e-mail list? IF so it is no longer on
line... right Nina?
peace,
barbara
-----Original Message-----
From: RJ Mac
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:54 -0700
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
I tried to get to David James's HAIR site, but the
link I have no longer connects.
Is it off the web?
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:20 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Could this really happen?
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
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Check this out.... Is Big Brother watching?
http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:56 -0700
From: David Hunt <pappynson at mac.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Its Pappy from Los Angeles
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Michael
hey this is Pappy from Los Angeles. Are you still going to take my
tour? (smile)
Listen keep inform of the reunion coming up. But where is it going to
take place?
As you know I live up in the mountains with the "Big Horn Mountainmen."
But I will come down for that reunion. If anyone is out in the Los
Angeles area and you would like to come up to our encampment let me
know and I would be happy to invite you guys up. We are now in the
Northern Seirra Nevada Mountains. I will be returning after the
Memorial Day holday for business and school.
Hope all of the Hair tribe members are doing well, I know I'm great and
living this wonderful dream I'm in on life.
Love Ya
David Hunt/Pappi
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:12:20 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Right you are Barbara.
But I believe that RJs referring to David James' Hait Tribe web site, which
is no longer on the web. I have most of what was there in the Archives, so
send me an email and let me know what you were looking for there, abd I'll
try and find it for you.
Nina
The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
>To: RJ Mac <nycrjmac at yahoo.com>, mb-hair at islandlists.com
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:41:48 GMT
>
>RJ.... do you mean the old Jabberwocky e-mail list? IF so it is no longer
>on line... right Nina?
>
>peace,
>barbara
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RJ Mac
>Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:54 -0700
>To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
>Subject: [Mb-hair] Missing HAIR Site
>
>I tried to get to David James's HAIR site, but the
>link I have no longer connects.
>
>Is it off the web?
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:14:56 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] bridgeport
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Send me one for the Archives, Mark. I have many productionn shots and would
love to have head shots of the company as well.
Nina
The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>From: "Amerifilm Casting, Inc." <info at amerifilmcasting.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
>To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] bridgeport
>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:06:14 -0400
>
>Mark, you guys were all great in the show. And thanks for sending me your
>head shot. I hope all the other performers do too.
>
>Meredith
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:23:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Its Pappy from Los Angeles
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Pappy!
Great to hear from you. Glad all is well.
Peace and Blessings ~ Jonathon Johnson
(San Diego)
David Hunt <pappynson at mac.com> wrote:
Michael
hey this is Pappy from Los Angeles. Are you still going to take my
tour? (smile)
Listen keep inform of the reunion coming up. But where is it going to
take place?
As you know I live up in the mountains with the "Big Horn Mountainmen."
But I will come down for that reunion. If anyone is out in the Los
Angeles area and you would like to come up to our encampment let me
know and I would be happy to invite you guys up. We are now in the
Northern Seirra Nevada Mountains. I will be returning after the
Memorial Day holday for business and school.
Hope all of the Hair tribe members are doing well, I know I'm great and
living this wonderful dream I'm in on life.
Love Ya
David Hunt/Pappi
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:38:04 -0400
From: "Robin McNamara" <olhippie at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Its Pappy from Los Angeles
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Hey Pappy
It's it about time you joined us, welcome aboard brother, spread the word to
as many Hair brothers & sisters you can find, about the reunion. From what I
understand it is now scheduled for Sept 10th in New York at La Mama
Love forever
Robin
http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara/
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Hunt" <pappynson at mac.com>
To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Its Pappy from Los Angeles
> Michael
>
> hey this is Pappy from Los Angeles. Are you still going to take my tour?
> (smile)
>
> Listen keep inform of the reunion coming up. But where is it going to
> take place?
>
> As you know I live up in the mountains with the "Big Horn Mountainmen."
> But I will come down for that reunion. If anyone is out in the Los
> Angeles area and you would like to come up to our encampment let me know
> and I would be happy to invite you guys up. We are now in the Northern
> Seirra Nevada Mountains. I will be returning after the Memorial Day
> holday for business and school.
>
> Hope all of the Hair tribe members are doing well, I know I'm great and
> living this wonderful dream I'm in on life.
>
> Love Ya
> David Hunt/Pappi
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:59:01 -0400
From: "Doris J. Brook" <djbrook at hevanet.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: Howard Zinn at Spelman
To: "mb-hair" <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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Hair-ites,
This was sent to me, he's one of the good guys.
-Doris
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/052505M.shtml
Against Discouragement
By Howard Zinn
Tom Dispatch
Wednesday 25 May 2005
In 1963, historian Howard Zinn was fired from Spelman College, where he was
chair of the History Department, because of his civil rights activities.
This year, he was invited back to give the commencement address. Here is the
text of that speech, given on May 15, 2005.
I am deeply honored to be invited back to Spelman after forty-two years.
I would like to thank the faculty and trustees who voted to invite me, and
especially your president, Dr. Beverly Tatum. And it is a special privilege
to be here with Diahann Carroll and Virginia Davis Floyd.
But this is your day - the students graduating today. It's a happy day
for you and your families. I know you have your own hopes for the future, so
it may be a little presumptuous for me to tell you what hopes I have for
you, but they are exactly the same ones that I have for my grandchildren.
My first hope is that you will not be too discouraged by the way the
world looks at this moment. It is easy to be discouraged, because our nation
is at war - still another war, war after war - and our government seems
determined to expand its empire even if it costs the lives of tens of
thousands of human beings. There is poverty in this country, and
homelessness, and people without health care, and crowded classrooms, but
our government, which has trillions of dollars to spend, is spending its
wealth on war. There are a billion people in Africa, Asia, Latin America,
and the Middle East who need clean water and medicine to deal with malaria
and tuberculosis and AIDS, but our government, which has thousands of
nuclear weapons, is experimenting with even more deadly nuclear weapons.
Yes, it is easy to be discouraged by all that.
But let me tell you why, in spite of what I have just described, you
must not be discouraged.
I want to remind you that, fifty years ago, racial segregation here in
the South was entrenched as tightly as was apartheid in South Africa. The
national government, even with liberal presidents like Kennedy and Johnson
in office, was looking the other way while black people were beaten and
killed and denied the opportunity to vote. So black people in the South
decided they had to do something by themselves. They boycotted and sat in
and picketed and demonstrated, and were beaten and jailed, and some were
killed, but their cries for freedom were soon heard all over the nation and
around the world, and the President and Congress finally did what they had
previously failed to do - enforce the 14th and 15th Amendments to the
Constitution. Many people had said: The South will never change. But it did
change. It changed because ordinary people organized and took risks and
challenged the system and would not give up. That's when democracy came
alive.
I want to remind you also that when the war in Vietnam was going on, and
young Americans were dying and coming home paralyzed, and our government was
bombing the villages of Vietnam - bombing schools and hospitals and killing
ordinary people in huge numbers - it looked hopeless to try to stop the war.
But just as in the Southern movement, people began to protest and soon it
caught on. It was a national movement. Soldiers were coming back and
denouncing the war, and young people were refusing to join the military, and
the war had to end.
The lesson of that history is that you must not despair, that if you are
right, and you persist, things will change. The government may try to
deceive the people, and the newspapers and television may do the same, but
the truth has a way of coming out. The truth has a power greater than a
hundred lies. I know you have practical things to do - to get jobs and get
married and have children. You may become prosperous and be considered a
success in the way our society defines success, by wealth and standing and
prestige. But that is not enough for a good life.
Remember Tolstoy's story, "The Death of Ivan Illych." A man on his
deathbed reflects on his life, how he has done everything right, obeyed the
rules, become a judge, married, had children, and is looked upon as a
success. Yet, in his last hours, he wonders why he feels a failure. After
becoming a famous novelist, Tolstoy himself had decided that this was not
enough, that he must speak out against the treatment of the Russian
peasants, that he must write against war and militarism.
My hope is that whatever you do to make a good life for yourself -
whether you become a teacher, or social worker, or business person, or
lawyer, or poet, or scientist - you will devote part of your life to making
this a better world for your children, for all children. My hope is that
your generation will demand an end to war, that your generation will do
something that has not yet been done in history and wipe out the national
boundaries that separate us from other human beings on this earth.
Recently I saw a photo on the front page of the New York Times which I
cannot get out of my mind. It showed ordinary Americans sitting on chairs on
the southern border of Arizona, facing Mexico. They were holding guns and
they were looking for Mexicans who might be trying to cross the border into
the United States. This was horrifying to me - the realization that, in this
twenty-first century of what we call "civilization," we have carved up what
we claim is one world into two hundred artificially created entities we call
"nations" and are ready to kill anyone who crosses a boundary.
Is not nationalism - that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary, so
fierce it leads to murder - one of the great evils of our time, along with
racism, along with religious hatred? These ways of thinking, cultivated,
nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on, have been useful to those in
power, deadly for those out of power.
Here in the United States, we are brought up to believe that our nation
is different from others, an exception in the world, uniquely moral; that we
expand into other lands in order to bring civilization, liberty, democracy.
But if you know some history you know that's not true. If you know some
history, you know we massacred Indians on this continent, invaded Mexico,
sent armies into Cuba, and the Philippines. We killed huge numbers of
people, and we did not bring them democracy or liberty. We did not go into
Vietnam to bring democracy; we did not invade Panama to stop the drug trade;
we did not invade Afghanistan and Iraq to stop terrorism. Our aims were the
aims of all the other empires of world history - more profit for
corporations, more power for politicians.
The poets and artists among us seem to have a clearer understanding of
the disease of nationalism. Perhaps the black poets especially are less
enthralled with the virtues of American "liberty" and "democracy," their
people having enjoyed so little of it. The great African-American poet
Langston Hughes addressed his country as follows:
You really haven't been a virgin for so long.
It's ludicrous to keep up the pretext...
You've slept with all the big powers
In military uniforms,
And you've taken the sweet life
Of all the little brown fellows...
Being one of the world's big vampires,
Why don't you come on out and say so
Like Japan, and England, and France,
And all the other nymphomaniacs of power.
I am a veteran of the Second World War. That was considered a "good
war," but I have come to the conclusion that war solves no fundamental
problems and only leads to more wars. War poisons the minds of soldiers,
leads them to kill and torture, and poisons the soul of the nation.
My hope is that your generation will demand that your children be
brought up in a world without war. It we want a world in which the people of
all countries are brothers and sisters, if the children all over the world
are considered as our children, then war - in which children are always the
greatest casualties - cannot be accepted as a way of solving problems.
I was on the faculty of Spelman College for seven years, from 1956 to
1963. It was a heartwarming time, because the friends we made in those years
have remained our friends all these years. My wife Roslyn and I and our two
children lived on campus. Sometimes when we went into town, white people
would ask: How is it to be living in the black community? It was hard to
explain. But we knew this - that in downtown Atlanta, we felt as if we were
in alien territory, and when we came back to the Spelman campus, we felt
that we were at home.
Those years at Spelman were the most exciting of my life, the most
educational certainly. I learned more from my students than they learned
from me. Those were the years of the great movement in the South against
racial segregation, and I became involved in that in Atlanta, in Albany,
Georgia, in Selma, Alabama, in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and Greenwood and
Itta Bena and Jackson. I learned something about democracy: that it does not
come from the government, from on high, it comes from people getting
together and struggling for justice. I learned about race. I learned
something that any intelligent person realizes at a certain point - that
race is a manufactured thing, an artificial thing, and while race does
matter (as Cornel West has written), it only matters because certain people
want it to matter, just as nationalism is something artificial. I learned
that what really matters is that all of us - of whatever so-called race and
so-called nationality - are human being!
s and should cherish one another.
I was lucky to be at Spelman at a time when I could watch a marvelous
transformation in my students, who were so polite, so quiet, and then
suddenly they were leaving the campus and going into town, and sitting in,
and being arrested, and then coming out of jail full of fire and rebellion.
You can read all about that in Harry Lefever's book Undaunted by the Fight.
One day Marian Wright (now Marian Wright Edelman), who was my student at
Spelman, and was one of the first arrested in the Atlanta sit-ins, came to
our house on campus to show us a petition she was about to put on the
bulletin board of her dormitory. The heading on the petition epitomized the
transformation taking place at Spelman College. Marian had written on top of
the petition: "Young Ladies Who Can Picket, Please Sign Below."
My hope is that you will not be content just to be successful in the way
that our society measures success; that you will not obey the rules, when
the rules are unjust; that you will act out the courage that I know is in
you. There are wonderful people, black and white, who are models. I don't
mean African- Americans like Condoleezza Rice, or Colin Powell, or Clarence
Thomas, who have become servants of the rich and powerful. I mean W.E.B.
DuBois and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and Marian Wright Edelman, and
James Baldwin and Josephine Baker and good white folk, too, who defied the
Establishment to work for peace and justice.
Another of my students at Spelman, Alice Walker, who, like Marian, has
remained our friend all these years, came from a tenant farmer's family in
Eatonton, Georgia, and became a famous writer. In one of her first published
poems, she wrote:
It is true --
I've always loved
the daring
ones
Like the black young
man
Who tried
to crash
All barriers
at once,
wanted to
swim
At a white
beach (in Alabama)
Nude.
I am not suggesting you go that far, but you can help to break down
barriers, of race certainly, but also of nationalism; that you do what you
can - you don't have to do something heroic, just something, to join with
millions of others who will just do something, because all of those
somethings, at certain points in history, come together, and make the world
better.
That marvelous African-American writer Zora Neale Hurston, who wouldn't
do what white people wanted her to do, who wouldn't do what black people
wanted her to do, who insisted on being herself, said that her mother
advised her: Leap for the sun - you may not reach it, but at least you will
get off the ground.
By being here today, you are already standing on your toes, ready to
leap. My hope for you is a good life.
Howard Zinn is the author with Anthony Arnove of the just published
Voices of a People's History of the United States (Seven Stories Press) and
of the international best-selling A People's History of the United States.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:13:37 -0400
From: "Charles Preston" <cpreston1 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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Hi Tribe,
Very sorry about not being able to make it to Bridgeport, I see a lot of
very nice pictures so far, I miss all of you.
Well I am back resurrected again, gee this is getting to be a job every time
I turn around having to be resurrected. The things that go on in my life are
so confusing sometimes I wonder when it is all going to slow down? But
that's life!!! At this point I don't see things slowing for another 10 years
right now. I am now in the process of finding another place to move to for a
while, I think I am going to the mountains in Jasper Georgia. I hope I can
keep all of my contact information the same except for my address, I will
let everyone know about all the changes when they happen if any except
address, I do know I will start living up there within a week or so. I will
not lose contact.
Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:17:28 -0400
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
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good luck charles glad youre okay
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From: Charles Preston
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
Hi Tribe,
Very sorry about not being able to make it to Bridgeport, I see a lot of
very nice pictures so far, I miss all of you.
Well I am back resurrected again, gee this is getting to be a job every
time I turn around having to be resurrected. The things that go on in my
life are so confusing sometimes I wonder when it is all going to slow down?
But that's life!!! At this point I don't see things slowing for another 10
years right now. I am now in the process of finding another place to move to
for a while, I think I am going to the mountains in Jasper Georgia. I hope I
can keep all of my contact information the same except for my address, I
will let everyone know about all the changes when they happen if any except
address, I do know I will start living up there within a week or so. I will
not lose contact.
Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:31:54 -0700
From: "ace" <ace at aceross.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Names to match the faces on Bridgeport Site
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:52:51 -0400
From: "swiggard at comcast.net" <swiggard at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Its Pappy from Los Angeles
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WOW! Hey there Pappy!!!!
How great to hear from you, and to know that you are up to such enriching
things. We have about a bazillion Mercury stories to share when we see each
other next - hopefully at LaMama on September 10. I'll be there - hope you
will too.
Peace, Love, Freedom and Happiness to you and yours...
Billy
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:15:48 -0400
From: "Charles Preston" <cpreston1 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
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Thanks Richard!!!
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:17 PM
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good luck charles glad youre okay
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From: Charles Preston
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
Hi Tribe,
Very sorry about not being able to make it to Bridgeport, I see a lot of
very nice pictures so far, I miss all of you.
Well I am back resurrected again, gee this is getting to be a job every
time I turn around having to be resurrected. The things that go on in my
life are so confusing sometimes I wonder when it is all going to slow down?
But that's life!!! At this point I don't see things slowing for another 10
years right now. I am now in the process of finding another place to move to
for a while, I think I am going to the mountains in Jasper Georgia. I hope I
can keep all of my contact information the same except for my address, I
will let everyone know about all the changes when they happen if any except
address, I do know I will start living up there within a week or so. I will
not lose contact.
Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 05:58:41 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Fw: Howard Zinn at Spelman
To: "Doris J.Brook" <djbrook at hevanet.com>, mb-hair
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Thank you for sending this Doris... He IS one of the good guys.
peace,
barbara
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From: Doris J. Brook
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:59:01 -0700
To: mb-hair
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: Howard Zinn at Spelman
Hair-ites,
This was sent to me, he's one of the good guys.
-Doris
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/052505M.shtml
Against Discouragement
By Howard Zinn
Tom Dispatch
Wednesday 25 May 2005
In 1963, historian Howard Zinn was fired from Spelman College, where he was
chair of the History Department, because of his civil rights activities.
This year, he was invited back to give the commencement address. Here is the
text of that speech, given on May 15, 2005.
I am deeply honored to be invited back to Spelman after forty-two years.
I would like to thank the faculty and trustees who voted to invite me, and
especially your president, Dr. Beverly Tatum. And it is a special privilege
to be here with Diahann Carroll and Virginia Davis Floyd.
But this is your day - the students graduating today. It's a happy day
for you and your families. I know you have your own hopes for the future, so
it may be a little presumptuous for me to tell you what hopes I have for
you, but they are exactly the same ones that I have for my grandchildren.
My first hope is that you will not be too discouraged by the way the
world looks at this moment. It is easy to be discouraged, because our nation
is at war - still another war, war after war - and our government seems
determined to expand its empire even if it costs the lives of tens of
thousands of human beings. There is poverty in this country, and
homelessness, and people without health care, and crowded classrooms, but
our government, which has trillions of dollars to spend, is spending its
wealth on war. There are a billion people in Africa, Asia, Latin America,
and the Middle East who need clean water and medicine to deal with malaria
and tuberculosis and AIDS, but our government, which has thousands of
nuclear weapons, is experimenting with even more deadly nuclear weapons.
Yes, it is easy to be discouraged by all that.
But let me tell you why, in spite of what I have just described, you
must not be discouraged.
I want to remind you that, fifty years ago, racial segregation here in
the South was entrenched as tightly as was apartheid in South Africa. The
national government, even with liberal presidents like Kennedy and Johnson
in office, was looking the other way while black people were beaten and
killed and denied the opportunity to vote. So black people in the South
decided they had to do something by themselves. They boycotted and sat in
and picketed and demonstrated, and were beaten and jailed, and some were
killed, but their cries for freedom were soon heard all over the nation and
around the world, and the President and Congress finally did what they had
previously failed to do - enforce the 14th and 15th Amendments to the
Constitution. Many people had said: The South will never change. But it did
change. It changed because ordinary people organized and took risks and
challenged the system and would not give up. That's when democracy came
alive.
I want to remind you also that when the war in Vietnam was going on, and
young Americans were dying and coming home paralyzed, and our government was
bombing the villages of Vietnam - bombing schools and hospitals and killing
ordinary people in huge numbers - it looked hopeless to try to stop the war.
But just as in the Southern movement, people began to protest and soon it
caught on. It was a national movement. Soldiers were coming back and
denouncing the war, and young people were refusing to join the military, and
the war had to end.
The lesson of that history is that you must not despair, that if you are
right, and you persist, things will change. The government may try to
deceive the people, and the newspapers and television may do the same, but
the truth has a way of coming out. The truth has a power greater than a
hundred lies. I know you have practical things to do - to get jobs and get
married and have children. You may become prosperous and be considered a
success in the way our society defines success, by wealth and standing and
prestige. But that is not enough for a good life.
Remember Tolstoy's story, "The Death of Ivan Illych." A man on his
deathbed reflects on his life, how he has done everything right, obeyed the
rules, become a judge, married, had children, and is looked upon as a
success. Yet, in his last hours, he wonders why he feels a failure. After
becoming a famous novelist, Tolstoy himself had decided that this was not
enough, that he must speak out against the treatment of the Russian
peasants, that he must write against war and militarism.
My hope is that whatever you do to make a good life for yourself -
whether you become a teacher, or social worker, or business person, or
lawyer, or poet, or scientist - you will devote part of your life to making
this a better world for your children, for all children. My hope is that
your generation will demand an end to war, that your generation will do
something that has not yet been done in history and wipe out the national
boundaries that separate us from other human beings on this earth.
Recently I saw a photo on the front page of the New York Times which I
cannot get out of my mind. It showed ordinary Americans sitting on chairs on
the southern border of Arizona, facing Mexico. They were holding guns and
they were looking for Mexicans who might be trying to cross the border into
the United States. This was horrifying to me - the realization that, in this
twenty-first century of what we call "civilization," we have carved up what
we claim is one world into two hundred artificially created entities we call
"nations" and are ready to kill anyone who crosses a boundary.
Is not nationalism - that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary, so
fierce it leads to murder - one of the great evils of our time, along with
racism, along with religious hatred? These ways of thinking, cultivated,
nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on, have been useful to those in
power, deadly for those out of power.
Here in the United States, we are brought up to believe that our nation
is different from others, an exception in the world, uniquely moral; that we
expand into other lands in order to bring civilization, liberty, democracy.
But if you know some history you know that's not true. If you know some
history, you know we massacred Indians on this continent, invaded Mexico,
sent armies into Cuba, and the Philippines. We killed huge numbers of
people, and we did not bring them democracy or liberty. We did not go into
Vietnam to bring democracy; we did not invade Panama to stop the drug trade;
we did not invade Afghanistan and Iraq to stop terrorism. Our aims were the
aims of all the other empires of world history - more profit for
corporations, more power for politicians.
The poets and artists among us seem to have a clearer understanding of
the disease of nationalism. Perhaps the black poets especially are less
enthralled with the virtues of American "liberty" and "democracy," their
people having enjoyed so little of it. The great African-American poet
Langston Hughes addressed his country as follows:
You really haven't been a virgin for so long.
It's ludicrous to keep up the pretext...
You've slept with all the big powers
In military uniforms,
And you've taken the sweet life
Of all the little brown fellows...
Being one of the world's big vampires,
Why don't you come on out and say so
Like Japan, and England, and France,
And all the other nymphomaniacs of power.
I am a veteran of the Second World War. That was considered a "good
war," but I have come to the conclusion that war solves no fundamental
problems and only leads to more wars. War poisons the minds of soldiers,
leads them to kill and torture, and poisons the soul of the nation.
My hope is that your generation will demand that your children be
brought up in a world without war. It we want a world in which the people of
all countries are brothers and sisters, if the children all over the world
are considered as our children, then war - in which children are always the
greatest casualties - cannot be accepted as a way of solving problems.
I was on the faculty of Spelman College for seven years, from 1956 to
1963. It was a heartwarming time, because the friends we made in those years
have remained our friends all these years. My wife Roslyn and I and our two
children lived on campus. Sometimes when we went into town, white people
would ask: How is it to be living in the black community? It was hard to
explain. But we knew this - that in downtown Atlanta, we felt as if we were
in alien territory, and when we came back to the Spelman campus, we felt
that we were at home.
Those years at Spelman were the most exciting of my life, the most
educational certainly. I learned more from my students than they learned
from me. Those were the years of the great movement in the South against
racial segregation, and I became involved in that in Atlanta, in Albany,
Georgia, in Selma, Alabama, in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and Greenwood and
Itta Bena and Jackson. I learned something about democracy: that it does not
come from the government, from on high, it comes from people getting
together and struggling for justice. I learned about race. I learned
something that any intelligent person realizes at a certain point - that
race is a manufactured thing, an artificial thing, and while race does
matter (as Cornel West has written), it only matters because certain people
want it to matter, just as nationalism is something artificial. I learned
that what really matters is that all of us - of whatever so-called race and
so-called nationality - are human being!
s and should cherish one another.
I was lucky to be at Spelman at a time when I could watch a marvelous
transformation in my students, who were so polite, so quiet, and then
suddenly they were leaving the campus and going into town, and sitting in,
and being arrested, and then coming out of jail full of fire and rebellion.
You can read all about that in Harry Lefever's book Undaunted by the Fight.
One day Marian Wright (now Marian Wright Edelman), who was my student at
Spelman, and was one of the first arrested in the Atlanta sit-ins, came to
our house on campus to show us a petition she was about to put on the
bulletin board of her dormitory. The heading on the petition epitomized the
transformation taking place at Spelman College. Marian had written on top of
the petition: "Young Ladies Who Can Picket, Please Sign Below"
My hope is that you will not be content just to be successful in the way
that our society measures success; that you will not obey the rules, when
the rules are unjust; that you will act out the courage that I know is in
you. There are wonderful people, black and white, who are models. I don't
mean African- Americans like Condoleezza Rice, or Colin Powell, or Clarence
Thomas, who have become servants of the rich and powerful. I mean W.E.B.
DuBois and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and Marian Wright Edelman, and
James Baldwin and Josephine Baker and good white folk, too, who defied the
Establishment to work for peace and justice.
Another of my students at Spelman, Alice Walker, who, like Marian, has
remained our friend all these years, came from a tenant farmer's family in
Eatonton, Georgia, and became a famous writer. In one of her first published
poems, she wrote:
It is true --
I've always loved
the daring
ones
Like the black young
man
Who tried
to crash
All barriers
at once,
wanted to
swim
At a white
beach (in Alabama)
Nude.
I am not suggesting you go that far, but you can help to break down
barriers, of race certainly, but also of nationalism; that you do what you
can - you don't have to do something heroic, just something, to join with
millions of others who will just do something, because all of those
somethings, at certain points in history, come together, and make the world
better.
That marvelous African-American writer Zora Neale Hurston, who wouldn't
do what white people wanted her to do, who wouldn't do what black people
wanted her to do, who insisted on being herself, said that her mother
advised her: Leap for the sun - you may not reach it, but at least you will
get off the ground.
By being here today, you are already standing on your toes, ready to
leap. My hope for you is a good life.
Howard Zinn is the author with Anthony Arnove of the just published
Voices of a People's History of the United States (Seven Stories Press) and
of the international best-selling A People's History of the United States.
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:01:00 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
To: Charles Preston <cpreston1 at bellsouth.net>, mb-hair at islandlists.com
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Good Luck to you Charles.... :-)
peace,
barbara
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Preston
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:13:37 -0700
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] HI EVERYONE in the TRIBE
Hi Tribe,
Very sorry about not being able to make it to Bridgeport, I see a lot of
very nice pictures so far, I miss all of you.
Well I am back resurrected again, gee this is getting to be a job every time
I turn around having to be resurrected. The things that go on in my life are
so confusing sometimes I wonder when it is all going to slow down? But
that's life!!! At this point I don't see things slowing for another 10 years
right now. I am now in the process of finding another place to move to for a
while, I think I am going to the mountains in Jasper Georgia. I hope I can
keep all of my contact information the same except for my address, I will
let everyone know about all the changes when they happen if any except
address, I do know I will start living up there within a week or so. I will
not lose contact.
Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~
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