[Mb-civic] Hugo Chavez: A Walk in the Footsteps of Arbenz, Allende

Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38 at msn.com
Tue Aug 30 16:59:31 PDT 2005


That is why he and Castro get along so well chatting and laughing... they are very much the same.

peace....

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From: Alexander Harper
Sent: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:42:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Hugo Chavez: A Walk in the Footsteps of Arbenz, Allende

If it hadn't been for the mess they have got themselves into in Iraq I am sure they would have already taken him out.
I understand from someone, who has met him ( a senior western diplomat, not some 'fellow traveller') that he is absolutely charming and has great charisma. He does not cut off his visitors after a few minutes but will talk and argue, very good humouredly and at great length with his interlocutor. Scheduling for him  must be a nightmare for his aides. He may well be just a rascal and a plausible demagogue, who is lucky enough to be able to defy conventional economics because of $70 oil but one cannot argue that he is doing great things for the poor. The venezuelan military will support him because thay can see that if he survives they will end up as the ruling elite, as is the case in Cuba.
AlB
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From: "Mike Blaxill" <mblaxill at yahoo.com>
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-civic] Hugo Chavez: A Walk in the Footsteps of Arbenz, Allende
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:31:28 -0700 (PDT)

> 
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082905G.shtml
> 
> Hugo Chavez: A Walk in the Footsteps of Arbenz,
> Allende
> By Dr. Rosa Maria Pegueros
> Common Dreams
> 
> 
> Monday 29 August 2005
> 
> 
> For more than forty years, Cuban leader Fidel
> Castro has been the target of countless United
> States- and CIA-sponsored assassination attempts.
> I shudder to think what might have happened if
> Cuba had been endowed with large reserves of oil.
> Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez may learn the
> consequences of such a blessing very soon.
> 
> 
> If television evangelist Pat Robertson's
> controversial statements suggesting that the U.S.
> send in a covert operative to take out Chavez
> were not just the words of a madman but a trial
> balloon floated for the administration, the
> firestorm that met them should stay the
> president's hand even though, in the bellicose
> preacher's words, "It is cheaper than starting
> another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you
> know, strong-arm dictator. . .and I don't think
> any oil shipments will stop.
> 
> 
> We may have "the ability to take him out, and
> I think the time has come that we exercise that
> ability," as Robertson says, but with the
> administration's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and
> its saber-rattling towards Korea and Iran, one
> would think Bush has his hands full.
> 
> 
> Hugo Chavez has set up medical clinics in the
> poorest neighborhoods in his country, staffing
> them with Cuban doctors, not that that United
> States has offered any medical assistance. He has
> created school music programs that have resulted
> in lower street crime and a resurgence of
> classical music: The would-be delinquents are
> spending their time practicing the violin instead
> of knocking over old ladies. The nerve of that
> guy! Wasting our money-or at least the money we
> pay for oil from Venezuela-on such effete
> solutions to social problems!
> 
> 
> More to the point, his administration has
> kept entrepreneurs from controlling the oil
> industry and sucking out all the profits to make
> themselves wealthy. Chavez has kept a tight rein
> on it, reinvesting the money for the benefit of
> the Venezuelan people. He has successfully
> responded to the needs of its citizens in ways
> that have made his socialist ideas very popular;
> the people have elected him twice and overcome a
> coup against him.
> 
> 
> The proper role of the government is to
> protect and make the best use of a nation's
> resources for its citizens. There is nothing in
> our Constitution about making the most money for
> a politician's supporters. In fact, the
> Constitution specifically mandates that we
> "promote the general Welfare." There's nothing
> communist about it.
> 
> 
> The United States has a number of genuine
> problems with Hugo Chavez. First of all,
> government control of the oil industry shuts out
> entrepreneurs and foreign investors-think of
> Standard Oil, Gulf Oil, and Exxon. Secondly, it
> has the second largest oil reserve in the
> Americas. Canada, with 171 billion barrels of oil
> is first, though second in the world to Saudi
> Arabia. According to the U.S. Energy Information
> Administration, Venezuela holds the ninth place
> in oil reserves with 77 billion barrels of oil.
> It is also extremely important to the U.S. in
> part because of its proximity. Recently, we have
> purchased more of Venezuela's oil than anyone
> has.
> 
> 
> Chavez's trolling for other markets threatens
> America's access to Venezuelan oil even more
> though both he and his representatives have been
> very clear that they are not planning to reduce
> exports to the U.S. Considering the presumably
> diminishing Saudi Arabian oil reserves, as well
> as China's and our increasing demand for oil,
> this is not an abstract threat except, he says,
> if we attempt to assassinate or overthrow him.
> 
> 
> The Saudis, possessors of the largest oil
> reserves in the world are extremely secretive
> about the amount of oil still available in their
> reserves. The U.S. government estimates that they
> have 261 billion barrels of oil but we cannot
> know for sure. They have good reason to play
> their cards so close to the vest: If they were to
> confirm that they are approaching their peak of
> production, it might spur the west to serious
> efforts to create alternative forms of fuel such
> as solar, wind and nuclear power. If those forms
> were to become widely available, it could cut
> into the Saudi market. It makes one wonder if
> Iran's claim that it is developing nuclear power
> because it is an alternative form of power is
> true. While Iran holds the world's fourth largest
> reserve of oil, with 126 billion barrels of oil,
> it would be exercising a rare form of prescience
> in planning for a future when that oil will be
> gone.
> 
> 
> Aside from America's concerns about oil,
> Chavez has made a number of pronouncements that
> have irritated the administration and its
> friends. He has responded strongly to rumors that
> the U.S. is planning to invade Venezuela saying
> that he would stand up to any such invasion. Just
> what would Bush expect him to say?
> 
> 
> Venezuela is right to publicize these rumors.
> If Cuba's experience with the Bay of Pigs
> invasion, the Cuban missile crisis and subsequent
> assassination attempts on Castro; the
> CIA-sponsored coups against Arbenz in Guatemala
> in 1954 and against Allende in Chile in 1972 are
> any measure of our government's willingness to
> disregard international law for our own ends,
> Chavez cannot take these rumors lightly
> particularly with the trigger-happy Bush at the
> helm.
> 
> 
> It is not just the history of American
> state-sponsored terrorism about which Venezuela
> is justified in worrying but the arrogant
> expectation that any government or leader that
> disagrees with us poses a risk to the American
> way of life. Latin American leaders are
> especially endangered.
> 
> 
> As Pat Robertson observed, "We have the
> Monroe Doctrine, and we have other doctrines that
> we have announced, and without question, this is
> a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a
> huge pool of oil that could hurt us very badly.
> 
> 
> President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
> officially repudiated the Monroe Doctrine in 1934
> ending U.S. interventionism in Latin America and
> replacing it with his "Good Neighbor" policy.
> Those damnable Democrats! But remember that
> President Gerald Ford issued an Executive Order
> that banned U.S. government agents from
> assassinating foreign leaders.
> 
> 
> In September 2001, in the wake of the attacks
> on the World Trade Center, President Bush
> rescinded that order and lowered the standard of
> proof for assassinations to those merely
> "suspected" of being terrorists. But long before
> George W. Bush became president the U.S had
> disregarded its Good Neighbor policy with
> interventions in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama,
> and the Dominican Republic, to name a few.
> 
> 
> Golda Meir famously said, "Even paranoids
> have enemies." Whatever mainstream America may
> think of Hugo Chavez, he is right to be wary.
> 
> 
> --------
> 
> Dr. Rosa Maria Pegueros is an associate
> professor of history at the University of Rhode
> Island. She may be reached at pegueros at uri.edu.
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