MB Civic

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/15/1459243

This dude from the AEI goes ballistic .. gives you an idea of just how crazy these SOBs are –

AMY GOODMAN: Joshua Muravchik, what did you take the election results to be a sign of this past week?

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Well, the election results were a sign of people being discouraged and fed up with the war in Iraq. It’s not going well. But the question then is what to do about it. I’m just stunned by what I hear from the Congressman Kucinich. His stump speech that he’s given us comes really from way out in left field. It’s — it’s —

AMY GOODMAN: What is your proposal, Joshua Muravchik? What do you feel has to happen now?

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Wait, wait, wait. Miss Moderator, you didn’t interrupt the other two gentleman when they were having their say. So, there’s no —

AMY GOODMAN: Yes, I just interrupted Congressmember Kucinich to find out what he thought of Jack Murtha…

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: No, Senator. I didn’t contradict myself, Senator.

GEORGE McGOVERN: — and that what we need now is more troops. So he reserves the right for himself to criticize our government, but he would deny that to people that he happens to disagree with.

AMY GOODMAN: Senator McGovern, if you could —

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Amy, let me get in on this, please. Let me get in on this. It’s my turn. You let him interrupt me, now let me — let me have my turn! You let him interrupt me! Now it’s my turn!

AMY GOODMAN: Why don’t you lay out your plan quickly. I want to ask Senator McGovern a question about history, about Vietnam. Go ahead, Joshua Muravchik.

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Senator McGovern, your powers of logic are failing you. I think it’s perfectly appropriate for me, you or anyone else to criticize the policies of the US government or the execution of policies, which is what I was criticizing. But it’s an entirely different thing to do what Congressman Kucinich did, which is to criticize and defame the motives of the United States in going into Iraq or anything else, to say that we had evil and sordid motives, that we wanted to kill all these Iraqis in order to steal their oil. That’s what —

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: Who defames the United States? We went into a war based on lies!

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: That is what Congressman Kucinich said —

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: We went into a war based on lies. Where’s the defamation there? You defame the United States when you stand by a policy that says that we should stay in a war that’s based on lies.

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Congressman Kucinich, you said —

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: You’re sending the people to death based on lies. It’s time to tell the truth! The American people want the truth.

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Congressman Kucinich, will you get off the stump speech and this sort of loaded politician —

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: The American people want the truth! Tell the truth, if you’re capable of it!

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Congressman Kucinich, you said that we went to kill Iraqis in order to steal their oil.

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: We went into Iraq for oil. Everybody in America knows that.

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Why don’t you just apologize to the American people for having said that?

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: The American people know that our invasion of Iraq was about oil. Big surprise! Surprise to you, maybe, but not a surprise to the American people.

JOSHUA MURAVCHIK: Well, Congressman Kucinich can yell louder than I can, but the fact is, you —

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: Not really. My ear is getting blown out here by your screaming….

Go check out the rest … McGovern and Kucinich have some good things to say.
-MAB