[Mb-hair] RE: Hair We are Again-Bald-DisinHAIRited!
richard haase
hotprojects at nyc.rr.com
Tue Nov 15 13:24:09 PST 2005
excuse me paul it wasnt comic relief
send me a ticket to your play below
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Korda" <paul at paulkorda.com>
To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair We are Again-Bald-DisinHAIRited!
> Love your comic relief Vinnie and Richard. Alright tribe, you all have
> good points, and Michael is right. A new musical.
> I have it, at least the total concept, treatment, location scouting,
> everything but the dialogue. It's called "Coming To". It could be
> entitled Tribes, but I'd be afraid of the prejudices of separation of
> one humanity into parts. The concept is based around an
> singer-songwriter trying to make his last ditch attempt for expression,
> up against the law. In two court cases, one where he is finally paid his
> royalties in the UK and the other, in the US, where they are ordered
> taken away from him. He arrives in the US to 9/11, having traveled to LA
> the day before. In an effort to escape the consequences of having
> everything taken from him and eventually being unable to afford to make
> music anymore, he drives in his old Honda, ladened with keyboard and the
> few things he has left, up the coast. He finds himself that night, alone
> on a beach in N. California, his past behind him, and witnessing a
> storm, the waves lashing, the white foam of the surf barely lit under a
> cloudy, raging moon. In this transition through change, he drives across
> the border to Canada, with all the cash strapped in a money belt.
> Stopped at the border with all the cash, the customs agent finds his
> zig-zags and asks him if he brought any smoking substance with him, not
> knowing there was some in his cereal box! Of course he says no, to which
> the customs guy said "Good, cause we grow the best stuff here". Based on
> a true story, he takes the ferry to the heart of an ecological
> sanctuary, Vancouver Island, where he meets up with a tribe of post 9/11
> drop-outs of musicians, hippies, artists, extreme sportsmen, and a bunch
> of older hippies who survive by cleaning the hostel where they all
> stay(some of the old cast!). Each night when they are all asleep, they
> awaken in their dreams, in a theatre where he writes them into an Astral
> musical, and they rehearse the songs. Each day they are unaware of what
> has happened, as out of the blue he gets a new idea for a song that he
> has really written the night before, in his dreams. A bond between them
> all begins to develop until they eventually realize what is happening.
> The story progresses to understand their search for their reasons to be
> alive at this time. The stories of post 9/11 echo in their decision to
> escape their pasts to get perspective on what is happening to the World
> now.
> Anyway, things get quite dramatic after he returns to LA, to the stark
> contrast in idealism between the Island and LA, where he is eventually
> arrested. Yet the conclusion is that those who trust their human nature
> will eventually rise above the chaos of prevailing dysfunction and
> disorder. The idea could be staged, but also would make a good lower
> budget movie, as part of the filming would be in Canada. Anyway it's
> just one idea I registered at the copyright office! The theme song is on
> "Not for Robots", along with a few others that I put on the cd. Peter
> Guber of Flashdance and Tommy fame seemed to like it, but I've been
> waiting to contact him again, with a little more ammunition for the
> cause, such as another well known musical producer and possibly another
> well known musical writer!
> Here's hoping we all find ourselves in that Astral theatre, Coming To!
>
> Paul
> http://PaulKorda.com
>
> Reply to this message to
> paul at paulkorda.com
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: Hair We Are Again (Beverly Bremers)
> 2. Re: Hair We Are Again (richard haase)
> 3. the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor of
> (richard haase)
> 4. senior center (Vincent Edwards)
> 5. Re: senior center (richard haase)
> 6. Re: senior center (Little Birdie)
> 7. Re: senior center (richard haase)
> 8. Re: A Mouse Told Me (tiogajoe at juno.com)
> 9. Re: Weed and such (tiogajoe at juno.com)
> 10. disinHAIRited (Vincent Edwards)
> 11. FT.com / Comment & analysis / Columnists - Philip Stephens: A
> way to win young Muslim minds (michael at intrafi.com)
> 12. NYTimes.com: Decoding Mr. Bush's Denials (michael at intrafi.com)
> 13. NYTimes.com: Strange Behavior at the F.D.A. (michael at intrafi.com)
> 14. NYTimes.com: Iraq in the Rear-View Mirror (michael at intrafi.com)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:54:56 -0800
> From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev at beverlybremers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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> Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I
> would too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
> authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
> live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
> you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
> lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
> yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
> your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
> HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.
>
> Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
> have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
>
> Beverly
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
>
> >
> > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg if
>
> > the songs were used before in different contexts particularly
> > repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit
> > permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on
> > everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> > its very tangled
> > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > have to be satisfied
> > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
> of
> > revivals
> >
> > as an experienced producer though
> > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta
> > etc large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ;
> > old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> > small enough not to set flags off
> > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
> media
> > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
> production
> > of sunset blvd
> > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > they had to pay patti off etc
> >
> > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media
>
> > in second city would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
> > arguably
> > very tudor stewart political etc\
> >
> > ?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
> > To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> >
> >
> > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you
> > > would
> > need
> > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders.
> > > You are also correct that one doesn't always need permission to
> > > record a song, but that law does not cover the use of the songs in a
>
> > > running performance
> > piece,
> > > but only on a recording.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > The Hair Archives
> > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal at rci.rutgers.edu>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that
> > > >this
> > holds
> > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS)
> > > >already
> > owns
> > > >the theatrical performance rights. In fact, I believe that
> > > >specific
> > rights
> > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a
> > > >new
> > work
> > > >which will lead to financial gain. My understanding is that you do
>
> > > >not need permission to record a published song, but you do still
> > > >need to pay the related royalties, and acknowledge existing
> > > >copyrights.
> > > >
> > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:12:58 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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>
> do you know bev\
> i was once approached in all seriousness by universal to write " BALD "
> LOL i was in my 20s a hair freak and horrified
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev at beverlybremers.com>
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
>
>
> > Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I
> > would
> too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
> authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
> live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
> you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
> lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
> yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
> your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
> HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.
> >
> > Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
> have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> > To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
> >
> > >
> > > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg
> > > if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly
> > > repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit
> > > permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on
> > > everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> > > its very tangled
> > > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > > have to be satisfied
> > > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
> of
> > > revivals
> > >
> > > as an experienced producer though
> > > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit
> > > atlanta
> etc
> > > large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ;
> > > old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> > > small enough not to set flags off
> > > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
> media
> > > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
> production
> > > of sunset blvd
> > > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > > they had to pay patti off etc
> > >
> > > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major
> > > media
> in
> > > second city
> > > would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al arguably
> > > very tudor stewart political etc\
> > >
> > > ?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> > >
> > >
> > > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you
> > > > would
> > > need
> > > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders.
> > > > You
> are
> > > > also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a
> > > > song,
> but
> > > > that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running
> > > > performance
> > > piece,
> > > > but only on a recording.
> > > > Nina
> > > >
> > > > The Hair Archives
> > > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal at rci.rutgers.edu>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that
> > > > >this
> > > holds
> > > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS)
> already
> > > owns
> > > > >the theatrical performance rights. In fact, I believe that
> > > > >specific
> > > rights
> > > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into
> > > > >a
> new
> > > work
> > > > >which will lead to financial gain. My understanding is that you
> > > > >do
> not
> > > > >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need
>
> > > > >to
> pay
> > > > >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> > > > >
> > > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Mb-hair mailing list
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:18:34 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor
> of
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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> he had come to a similar conclusion himself
>
> galt is the one who says thats verboten
>
> there is someway for improvisition as indicated in the acting versions
>
> eg the recent gate production took great liberties
>
> as i have heard many of the companies on the road put the nude scene in
> walking in space
>
> so there are precedents
> but yes the authors have ultimate power
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> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:25:39 +0800
> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi at t-online.de>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: "mb-hair at islandemail.com" <mb-hair at islandemail.com>
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> this cracks me up senior center old peoples home or even the crazy
> hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
> wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully the old age of
> aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny think about it love
> you all vincent
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: <VinUschi at t-online.de>, <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
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> yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
>
> everyone wants to do it
> including jimmy
>
> galt doesnt want it
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi at t-online.de>
> To: <mb-hair at islandemail.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
>
>
> > this cracks me up senior center old peoples home or even the crazy
> > hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
> > wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully the old age of
> > aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny think about it love
>
> > you all vincent
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:00:06 +0000
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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>
> Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
> become
> of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting and
> possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book and
> score.
> Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented
> writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express
> what
> you're trying to say in a new project.
>
> We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to
> recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to have
> the
> involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
>
> So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave it
> alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why there
> is
> always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new contexts, when
> there
> is so little interest in this for other musicals? Why do we never see
> such
> totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, or West Side Story? Why does
> no
> one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in
> other
> places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to it's
> times,
> but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so
> prevalent
> today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing versions of WSS set
> in
> the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
> feel
> that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to
> understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand that
> I
> am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering why this
> topic
> is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely with
> other pieces.
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> >To: <VinUschi at t-online.de>, <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> >
> >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> >
> >everyone wants to do it
> >including jimmy
> >
> >galt doesnt want it
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:01:45 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <001a01c5e977$c4aae000$f1476c42 at hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> its not turning hair into a new show
> this is how direction and mis en scene evolves
>
> and the authors would naturally be involved in any production of HAIR
> that i did i am in constant touch with them
>
> and yes once you set the context
> and its the same script
> yes it is HAIR
> its not the same production
> but yes it would be HAIR
> and Jimmy Rado shares this vision in fact
> that sound that came off the floor in the reunion is HAIR
> MORE HAIR THAN ANY OTHER COMPANY
>
> and i have more new high end projects than anyone the planet but HAIR
> like a piece of mozart or bizets carmen or something by dostoyevsky is
> very special
>
> the reason this discussion comes up with HAIR is the notion of ground
> breaking of freshness is very much a part of the zeitgeist of the show;
> so the notion of keeping it fresh and freshness is part of HAIRS
> inherent makeup
>
> thats why
>
> and yes i would set west side story now
> and without changing a word make it black and puerto rican
> the jets as in jet black are a black gang
> thats whos living up there now
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
>
>
> > Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
> become
> > of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting
> > and possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book
> > and
> score.
> > Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented
> > writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express
> > what you're trying to say in a new project.
> >
> > We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to
> > recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to
> > have
> the
> > involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
> >
> > So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave
> > it alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why
> > there is always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new
> > contexts, when there is so little interest in this for other musicals?
>
> > Why do we never see such totally changed productions of Hello Dolly,
> > or West Side Story? Why does
> no
> > one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in
> > other places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to
>
> > it's
> times,
> > but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so
> > prevalent today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing
> > versions of WSS set
> in
> > the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
> feel
> > that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to
> > understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand
> > that I am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering
> > why this
> topic
> > is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely
> > with other pieces. Nina
> >
> > The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> > >To: <VinUschi at t-online.de>, <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> > >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> > >
> > >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> > >
> > >everyone wants to do it
> > >including jimmy
> > >
> > >galt doesnt want it
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:16:57 GMT
> From: "tiogajoe at juno.com" <tiogajoe at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] A Mouse Told Me
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <20051114.191704.26945.126639 at webmail43.lax.untd.com>
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> Hey, Robert! A Very Belated Happy Birthday to you!
> Okay, so it took a while for that mouse to get my attention (been busy
> and all that jazz), but I saw this posting (finally) and wanted to give
> you my best wishes, 'cause I've enjoyed getting to meet you and hang
> with you (even if only briefly) at a couple of our most recent HAIR
> happenings (Bridgefield, Bridgeport [or where ever it was in
> Connecticut] and then the Reunion in NYC). You're a great contribution
> to the HAIR family, and I feel lucky to have been able to know you as
> more than just a name on the List. Keep up the good work and add many
> more years to your being here (and thereby being the positive
> contributor you have been to the stewardship of this planet Earth of
> ours).
> Beads, Love, Freedom, Happiness,
> --Tioga Joe
> ====================================
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:19:19 -0400
> From: Michael Butler <michael at michaelbutler.com>
>
> Robert,
> That today is a great one
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
> Hope your leg is better.
> And see you soon
> Michael
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:12:57 GMT
> From: "tiogajoe at juno.com" <tiogajoe at juno.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Weed and such
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
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> Just IMHO:
> Smoke in the lungs being unsafe:
> Probably. Hard to argue against. But still, I don't want smoking
> outlawed. You may catch me smoking Cavendish in a briarwood pipe as I
> stroll to the fishing pier late at night. In a way, it signals that
> stand. England's King James hated the smoking of the evil weed tobacco
> back in the early 1600's. Had he had his way, English-speaking America
> may never have taken root in Jamestown, Virginia, and we may well have
> ended up speaking a different language in America today. I'm glad the
> smoke merchants succeeded.
> Cannabis smoke stinking:
> Yeah, I've smelled some pretty stinky stuff -- yet even that had some
> adequate results (altering-of-states-of-consciousness-wise), but, man,
> the good stuff? That smell is good enough to can in an aerosol can of
> air-freshener! I've almost gotten whip-lash when catching a whiff and
> then searching the environs to figure out the source! It's a pretty
> smell. No stink at all. But, yeah, there's some stinky stuff out there
> (30 years ago when I was a waiter in a restaurant in Billsburg,
> Virginia, the busboy had some stinky pot. It smelled awful. But he was
> a happy busboy [hard to find] and he did his part to make sure at least
> one of the waiters he worked for was happy, too!).
> Beach Boys:
> I turned on to the Beach Boys as a young teen when they first started
> making waves in the early-mid '60s, and that was LONG before I allowed
> myself to investigate pot, so I had (and have) no drug connections to
> their music (even if there were some). Brian Wilson and his Beach Boys
> spoke to me through their music. That music (and lyrics) continue to be
> for me all that's necessary to get into that groove.
> Regarding New Jersey's "Weed Man," I'm afraid it may be discovered that
> I voted for him. Hell, I dislike both the major candidates for
> Governorship, so, hell, I figured I might as well make that point as
> strongly as I could (and with some measure of a sense of humor, eh?)
> Regarding legalizing, ... well, you said it.
> And the fifth? Yeah, I take the fifth (I also bought a fifth, which,
> apparently, is still legal).
> Anyway, all of the above is only alleged to have come from me. These
> opinions are not necessarily those of the author (am I paranoid, or
> what?).
> Yadda, yadda, yadda, have a good day, and all that jazz,
> Joseph Livingstone de Tioga
> ======================================
> Sean Courtney <dauber at banana-and-louie.org> wrote:
> On 10/15/2005, Robin McNamara wrote:
>
> > There are many things that marijuana is good for both physical &
> > mental. Our government refuses to study it properly & spreads
> garbage
> > propaganda of how bad it is for you. Carl Sagen, said that
> marijuana
> > gave him intellectual insight.
>
> I don't blame the government, and I'll tell ya why: ours is by far
> not the
> only government to outlaw it. Very few countries allow it.
>
> My overall thoughts:
>
> 1) Whether it be pot, tobacco, or hickory, putting ANY smoke in your
> lungs
> ain't safe -- that's why the fire department tells you to get as
> close to
> the ground as you can, so you don't breathe it in! And that's why
> your
> lungs
> force it out.
>
> 2) The stuff stinks...literally! Either that or the stuff I got a
> whiff of
> at the McCartney concerts (and the one Brian Wilson show I w ent to
> where
> someone lit up a blunt -- I'm sorry, but 1) you shouldn't light up
> when
> you're ten feet away from a recovering drug addict, and 2) of all
> the songs
> in the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys catalog to turn on to, "Sloop John
> B" is NOT
> a good one to do that to!!!!) I've been to was rancid....seriously,
> that
> stuff smelled like....well, sadly, what my feet smell like right
> now.
>
> 3) However, I wouldn't step in the way of legalizing it. In
> fact...here in
> NJ there's this guy known as "NJ Weed Man" who's been arrested
> several times
> for possessing the stuff. He's RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR!!! and promises
> to
> legalize the ganja here in the state. I'm seriously
> thinking of voting for the dude -- he's much more qualified than the
> two
> bozos in the democratic and republican parties who are running. I'm
> not
> bashing republicans and democrats or anything, but the candidates
> for NJ
> governor just don't give me a good feeling.
>
> 4) It really would be in the government's best interest to legalize
> it,
> what
> with the taxes they could put on it, medicinal qualities, etc.
>
> 5) Uhhh...nothing else, really...I just wanted a fifth point. :)
>
> --
> dauber at banana-and-louie.org
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:49:18 +0800
> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi at t-online.de>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] disinHAIRited
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> hi tribe looks like jim and gerry already had the title for the old age
> of aquarius written way back disinHAIRited love you all vincent
>
>
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> Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Decoding Mr. Bush's Denials
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> Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Strange Behavior at the F.D.A.
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> Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Iraq in the Rear-View Mirror
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