[Mb-civic] FW: BARBARITY

[Golsorkhi]

Michael,  I believe I may have sent you the video recently.  Regards,  Reza
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 Friends,
 
 I wrote you about this interview, which can be seen courtesy
 of Memri.  But then I thought, some of you perhaps didn't
 go see it, or have older computers,etc. etc. Because I think
 that no more important words have been spoken than those
 of  Arab-American psychologist Wafa Sultan,  I'm sending out
 the transcript of this interview.
 Please read it.Then read it again (the last paragraph is
 the best).  Then print it out and hang in in your
 synagogues,
 churches and mosques (because that's where they need it
 most).  I like it so much, I think I'll send it out every
 few months, as a reminder,
 to help keep us safe from fuzzy thinking, and self-haters,
 and Third-Worlders, and movie star liberals, and newsmen,
 and other tragically and criminally clueless members of  the
 embattled West who are ready to give up and give in and help
 us all lie down in front of the bulldozing barbarism of  our
 age.
 
 Again, thank you Memri!
 http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1050
<http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1050>

 Arab-American Psychologist Wafa Sultan: There Is No Clash of
 Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the
 Middle Ages and That of the 21st Century
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 Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American
 psychologist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on
 Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006
 
 . 
 
 Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is
 not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is
 a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a
 clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages
 and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It
 is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between
 the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and
 rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression,
 between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between
 human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these
 rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat
 women like beasts, and those who treat them like human
 beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations.
 Civilizations do not clash, but compete.
 
 Host: I understand from your words that what is happening
 today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the
 backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?
 
 Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
 
 [...]
 
 Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of
 civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin
 Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't
 mind...
 
 Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this
 expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of
 civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: "I was ordered to
 fight the people until they believe in Allah and His
 Messenger." When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims
 and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they
 believe in what they themselves believe, they started this
 clash, and began this war. In order to start this war, they
 must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are
 full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.
 
 My colleague has said that he never offends other people's
 beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows
 him to call other people by names that they did not choose
 for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another
 time he calls them the "People of the Book," and yet another
 time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the
 Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you
 that they are "People of the Book"? They are not the People
 of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful
 scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit
 of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the
 right to call them "those who incur Allah's wrath," or
 "those who have gone astray," and then come here and say
 that your religion commands you to refrain from offending
 the beliefs of others?
 
 I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular
 human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I
 respect others' right to believe in it.
 
 Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
 
 Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular
 human being who does not believe in the supernatural...
 
 Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no
 point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against
 Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran...
 
 Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern
 you.
 
 [...]
 
 Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as
 you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever
 you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern,
 whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary,
 or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their
 beliefs.
 
 [...]
 
 Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the
 Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their
 knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their
 crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries
 and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish
 scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the
 world, united and won their rights through work and
 knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in
 a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a
 church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing
 people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into
 rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a
 Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the
 Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches,
 killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not
 yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they
 can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind
 respect them
 




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