[Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
richard haase
hotprojects at nyc.rr.com
Fri Jan 14 09:00:16 PST 2005
i AM SO FAR AHEAD OF YOU MR BARAKA
lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Harper
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
There must be a money launderers' website somewhere that you could search for angels on. Try Google. I can visualize "Alice in Wonderland: The Musical - Brought to you by the Medellin Cartel." Actually there has been a bit of a furore in the UK about funny money financing films, shows etc. They tried to change the law but then no one would have wanted to make films in the UK anymore so as far as I know the Russian mafia is probably still making a sterling contribution to British cultural life. Nazdrovia.
AL Baraka
----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase"
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:16:38 -0500
listen could i have some of that illegal drug money for my shows? just curious lol
also if anyone wants to ever send me a lid wrapped in coffee or something
i will accept reefer from anyone
honest
richard in projectland
----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Harper
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
I fear that there are such huge vested interests at play here in keeping drugs illegal that it probably ain't going to happen outside small, sensible, liberal and, yes, ethical countries like Holland. In the US , you probably have far more accurate data than I do, I believe that the drugs trade turns over something like $100 bn pa in black money. It is an amazing slush fund to have access to and so many bogus careers are spawned from it all. We are all pissing into a hurricane on this one, however right we may be.
Al Baraka
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:39:51 -0500
Robin:
Excellent work. Let me add a couple of things.
When I was dealing (yes, I was a bad boy once...) in the early to late 70s, all my dealer friends and i knew that there was a direct connection between U.S. military involvement overseas and the influx of drugs to the U.S. For example, when we first went into Afghanistan (long before the 80s), my friend predicted an influx of Afghani hash. Lo and behold, less than three weeks later, Afghani hash started coming in. When we went into Beirut (also pre-80s), he predicted an influx of Lebanese hash. Lo and beyold, within three weeks, there it was. When there was a brief "itchy" period in Thailand, we eagerly awaited the influx of Thai stick. It was not as big as we'd hoped for, but there it was just the same.
The reason for all this is really very simple. We provide arms and other support to these countries, but they do not have the money - cash - to cover all of these debts. So we trade arms for drugs. And we've been doing it for at least 30-40 years. This is why the Iran-Contra drug-money-arms scandal was no surprise to me or any of my dealer friends. Indeed, we were wondering why such a fuss was being made, when this was actually SOP for the military.
Also, re the war on drugs. One of the things the government complains about is the "porous" borders, and the inability to stop drugs from entering the U.S. Setting aside the fact that the government itself is in the drug business, and doesn't want to stop the flow, the complaint is an outright lie.
When I discussed this with a high-level career military friend of mine, he looked at me and laughed. He then asked me a question: "Ian - do you know where the National Guard is located throughout the U.S.?" I said I didn't know. "The vast majority of National Guard HQs are on the perimeter of the continental U.S. - near the borders. And do you know why? So that, in a true national security emergency, the borders can be 'shut down.' And when I say 'shut down,' I mean it: if the U.S. government really wanted to shut the borders - to stop the flow of drugs, or illegal immigration, or anything else - it would take less than 90 minutes to secure 95% of the border of the 48 contiguous states. Ninety minutes. And I know this because it's been tested."
Pretty powerful stuff, huh?
Finally, whenever I get into debates about the "dangers" of marijuana, I simply relate three facts that usually shut people up.
First, not one single person has ever died as a direct result of smoking marijuana, unless the marijuana was tainted with something else (e.g., PCP): i.e., no death certificate has ever been issued on which the cause of death was listed as "marijuana." Indeed, even were someone to find a few examples, they would still not equal even the number of people who die from snake bites or lightning. Consider also that deaths from cigarettes in the U.S. alone are about 500,000 per year, plus another 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from alcohol-related diseases. Yet alcohol and cigarettes are legal - and tobacco is actually subsidized by the government.
Second, the country of Jamaica, which has the largest per capita consumption of marijuana in the world, has one of the lowest lung cancer rates in the world. Yet China, which has one of the lowest per capita consumption rates in the world, has among the highest rates of lung cancer. Why? Tobacco. Can marijuana cause cancer? Possibly, since any foreign substance in the lungs has that capacity. But no causal link has ever been found.
Third, marijuana has proven positive, effective medical uses (as you point out), including for glaucoma, cancer (to ease the after-effects of chemo- and radiation therapy) and AIDS (to ease the effects of various drug therapies, as well as to stimulate the appetite). And, as you also point out, marijuana may have many other positive medical uses, which we simply do not know because the government refuses to study it properly.
These three facts speak volumes more than all the conjecture and paranoia of anti-drug groups. Indeed, I have always felt that, if the anti-drug groups would separate out marijuana from "drugs," and focus on the truly dangerous drugs like heroin, cocaine, MDMA, etc., then they would stop alienating a great number of potential new supporters - people who smoke marijuana but have serious reservations about (or are outright against) "drugs."
Peace.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin McNamara
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
Al Barka & All
I couldn't agree more about maijuana. Most drugs like heroin and cocaine, speed, alcohol, nicotine and most prescription drugs, will wind up either doing damage to you or even kill you if you are not careful. Don't get me wrong; I said "most" presciption drugs because there are some wonderful drugs that do save lives like the AIDS cocktail combination, but the percentage of good prescription drugs is miniscule compared to the bad ones; most of the pills prescribed today are garbage. We live in a culture that says take a pill for this ailment or that ailment and all will be better. The drug companies have most of us convinced through advertising that that is the way to go. It's all a bunch of bullshit. Now, when it comes to marijuana that is a different story - no one has ever died from it. The medical profession and drug companies are afraid of it because not only can anyone grow it but they can't figure out why it works for so many ailments because of their refusal to study it properly, so they keep feeding us garbage information on how bad it is for you. Marijuana is a wonderful thing because not only does it enhance your physical and mental well-being and relieve the suffering from cancer, AIDS and glaucoma, but also it has many other indications where it works. "The Herb Book," the Bible of all herbs, written by John Lust with contributions by many other people including many doctors, says that "Although the current interest in cannabis centers on its euphorigenic properties, the plant has in the past also shown much promise as a medicinal agent. uses includes: analgesic-hypnotic, topical anesthetic, antiasthmatic, antibiotic, antiepileptic and antispasmodic, antidepressant and tranquilizer, antitussive, appetite stimulant, oxytocic, preventive and anodyne for neuralgia (including migraine), aid to psychotherapy, and agent to ease withdrawal from alcohol and opiates. Restrictions placed on cannabis in the U.S. since 1937 have practically eliminated its use as a medicinal agent, and even research into its properties was practically nonexistent until the last few years. Its medical history suggests that cannabis has only low toxicity (no confirmed deaths have been attributed to cannabis poisoning)...."
Alan Ginsberg said that pot was the catalyst of the 60's hippie movement; it made the hippies more aware to not be afraid to protest and take on government. Also, the late and well-respected astronomer and author Carl Sagan. who wrote many scientific books, i.e. The Cosmos, said that pot gave him insight. He was a secret but avid marijuana smoker, crediting it with inspiring essays and scientific insight, according to Sagan's biographer Keay Davidson. Using the pseudonym "Mr. X", Sagan wrote about his pot smoking in an essay published in the 1971 book Reconsidering Marijuana. In the essay, Sagan said marijuana inspired some of his intellectual work.
Also the war on drugs is a sham; we will spend 25 billion dollars this year and more every year after that to send to some of the most corrupt countries on earth like Columbia who could really give a shit about helping us police our bad habits. There is no truth that when you legalize and regulate drugs, it causes more crime and addiction; other countries that have done it hold the proof. In this country we are so pious, yet we consume 60% of the world's cocaine. If the gonvernment would legalize, educate, and treat, then through taxation they would make billions, especially with marijauna, and be able to fund educational and treatment centers and still have billions left over for other things instead of spending your tax dollars on a never-ending saga of bullshit.
Peace
Robin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
Good stuff, that (marijuana, maconha,yerba,falopa, mercaderia etc). A friend of mine here jumped out of aeroplane three years ago with a parachute strapped securely to his back but it didn't open. Result: 2 legs smashed to smithereens, infected bones etc but miraculously still alive. In the US or EU they would have amputated them immediately but here they like a challenge and they have been trying to piece them back together. He has had chronic, excruciating pain for the past three years a 61 operations under general anaesthetic. The only thing that brings relief is smoking the maconha leaf. I do not know if he had been smoking it before he jumped but in any case if any of you needed a testimonial as the medical benefits of Don Ricardo's habit I will get my friend to post it on this board.
Suerte, carajo
Al Baraka
----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:34:41 -0500
>
> lol
> im not on any medication except marijuana
> i dont believe in the over prescription in psychopharmacology that is
> rampant today
> i have never been on any sort of psychiatric medication
> never
> ( rolls another )
> although i suppose one could argue that marijuana is organic prozac
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian" <ialterman at nyc.rr.com>
> To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
>
>
> > Richard:
> >
> > Have you been at the Prozac again?...LOL
> >
> > Peace.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> > To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
> >
> >
> > > im not doing anything
> > > come on
> > > im being good
> > > stop picking on me
> > > respectfully it seems i have less rights around here
> > > than other people
> > > peace
> > > richard going to hide
> > > where the villagers cant get me
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Siomos"
> > <barbarasiomos38 at webtv.net>
> > > To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard...
> > >
> > > Enough is supposed to mean enough.... seems like YOU are trying to stir
> > > things up again. Why?
> > > peace,
> > > barbara
> > > >From: mike at michaeldanso.com(Michael Danso)
> > > >Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 1:23pm
> > > >To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > > >Subject: [Mb-civic] ENOUGH ALREADY!!
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone. This is a marvelous informational International Forum
> > > which has been provided to us all. I hope it is continued to be used
> > > wisely. This is my first communicade. Have I addressed it properly?
> > >
> > > I have been reading the religious gobbledygook and philosophical
> > > fartings of so many of you over the past few months that I have FINALLY
> > > been prompted to ask that I be permitted to submit and place the
> > > following very small and personal concept upon the very messy banquet
> > > table set before us all. ( So many uncleared Courses...tsk-tsk..)
> > > First, please allow me to clear a small corner space at this Universal
> > > Round-Table you have over time so eloquently covered with layer upon
> > > layer of Disagreement, Fuss, Sarcasm, Plagiarism, Inner Fears, Vengeful
> > > Attitudes, Intellectual Snobbism, Mental, Physical, Emotional and
> > > Spiritual Disharmony, Sadness, Lack of Joy, Disillusionment, Forceful
> > > Placement of Collective and Personal Egoist Ideologies as well as
> > > quotations of and from all and sundry which may suit and fit a
> > > particular point but fail the over-all discussion.
> > > Ah! After rubbing diligently with all of my Heart at this same spot, I
> > > now see the purity of the substance and Space God has provided us to
> > > place the parts of ourselves we wish to share with others somehow
> > > showing through. What a Glow...
> > > I will now place my lovely piece of fresh fruit given to me by The
> > > Universe through a very beautiful and wise Grandmother. It is a simple
> > > fruit which not only bursts with delightful flavor but is nourishing and
> > > regenerative as well. Here it is...
> > > " THERE IS ONLY GOD EVERYTHING ELSE IS DOGMA "
> > > I have carried this fruit in my mind's knapsack all of my life. My Path
> > > has taken me all over the planet and still does.
> > > I am fortunate in the fact that my Life Experience has allowed me to
> > > encounter so many multi-varied peoples, places, things and ways of being
> > > that I constantly take time and wonder at it all as I make my way
> > > through. When I see the positive and negatives I and others experience,
> > > I try to take as active a part as I can to positively influence the
> > > occasion, and reach back and take another bite and am regenerated. Try
> > > it. Pare away everything you think you know and then see what is left.
> > > Time to end this communicade. I hope you find it informative,
> > > interesting and useful. If you use your ego as a positive tool, you
> > > will. Meanwhile, I am going out this afternoon to a rehearsal of a
> > > musical one man show I have written. I will put on my warmest coat,
> > > sweater, scarf and shoes because it is snowing outside. I will close my
> > > front door and walk down the street breathing in the air, hopefully hear
> > > a bird ( if it is a pigeon cooing, so be it )look up at a gray-blue sky
> > > and hopefully no Gull will inadvertently "sigh with relief" as it passes
> > > overhead ( smile ) and try to catch a snowflake on my tongue. Some of
> > > the grass will be green: a dandelion or two will be welcomed and Trees
> > > will wear their thick, brown winter bark..
> > > I will make sure that two things will definitely happen on my walk: The
> > > first will be that I will in some way Thank God for all of these simple
> > > pleasures I am being allowed to experience. The second is that I will
> > > intentionally smile into the eyes of the first Bi-pedal Humanoid
> > > Carbon-based Creature I see ...( 'Human' for short...I am such a Leo!
> > > ...and toss as much Psychic Joy I can into their gaze just to share the
> > > warm glow of Living Here and Now together.
> > >
> > > As Lyle has said: " Peace " I am
> > >
> > > Michael Danso
> > >
> > > Go to www.michaeldanso.com site for Contact information.
> > >
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