[Mb-civic] The return of the draft

[Alexander Harper]

That would be great, Cheese, but how do we get there from the bloody mess we are in now? What pragmatic steps can be taken? Just about all the contributors to MBC knew that Bush, Blair et al were lying to us from the start (ie before the Iraq war and indeed about just about everything else ever since) and we foresaw pretty clearly the consequences of their wickedness and the situation we are now in and a fat lot of good it did us and the millions of people around the world who thought the same way. Bush was reelected on 2 nov 2004 and Blair looks certain to be reelected in the UK in May 2005. We all believe we can see the problem and you for one write very movingly about it - so how are we going start solving it? It is pretty complicated - this particular onion has many many skins.

AlBaraka
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheeseburger <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Subject: [Mb-civic] The return of the draft
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:54:46 -0600

> 
> Re:  The return of the draft
> 
> 
> Al wrote:
> 
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> I wonder if they have considered starting up a couple of divisions
> along the lines of the French Foreign Legion, the Gurkha regiments
> or - in its day - the Waffen SS, all outstandingly successful
> military units.
> =====
> 
> 
> 
> We probably have those kind of "units" already, but also have such
> classified flow of control of information oozing out of things like the
> Pentagon that we just don't advertise them.
> 
> Hit men with uniforms.  The new America.
> 
> I hear your points, the only problem is that we are trying to stop
> unnecessary and invented wars, not diminish the number of troops.
> 
> We can never stop such imbecilic wars while we continue to enlist more
> people to fight them.
> 
> If you want to stop an out of control tank running over men women and
> children 10,000 miles away, all you have to do is remove the driver.
> 
> My concept is not to find ways to help the Pentagon out of its
> megalomaniacal death scenarios which it cannot fully deploy for lack of
> personnel, but to turn the Pentagon into something useful like a
> humanitarian force and put the International Red Cross over them as their
> superiors, as it should be.
> 
> And to disband such things as White Houses who command them to go and kill
> and conquer and destroy in the name of Freedom, Liberty, and Justice, which
> has now become the world's deadliest global joke.
> 
> The OLD men, and women, who concoct, start and perpetuate various wars
> should be REQUIRED to go fight them after they hatch them from their *nuses.
> 
> And let the YOUNG people stay at home, finally, and build a real country.
> 
> But, alas, the old people are too set in their ways and egotistical and
> prefer to sit comfortably at home and toast champagne, cheer, pat each other
> on the back, wave the red white and blue inbetween prayers to the holy ones,
> and laugh about their conquests as the young people lay in the mud overseas
> somewhere and scream "Medic..!!" with their dying breaths.
> 
> Some things never change.
> 
> Plus there will always be teenagers who are stupid enough to enlist.
> 
> And there will always be adults who are ruthless enough to enlist them.
> 
> And there will always be Congressmen who are jubilant enough to use our
> taxes to fund the entire process.
> 
> The main reason, it seems sometimes, that we need need need more more more
> ground personnel in unnecessary and invented wars is not to actually secure
> an area (we can do that from a million miles away with missiles and nuclear
> warheads etc) but is to look good for the press photos on the ground holding
> a now parentless child on their lap giving them a candy bar so the Insanos
> at The Top will be able to pull the heart strings of the people back home
> who finance such wars, and continue to, endlessly, get their financing, as
> they point to the "supreme sacrifice" our ground personnel have made in the
> name of "Truth, Justice, and The American Way".
> 
> War "on the ground" must be made unpalatable.
> 
> Then the "Glory" and "Sacrifices" of such unnecessary and invented wars will
> no longer be able to be touted as the reason to continue them.
> 
> And then the White House, the State Department, The Pentagon, The Media,
> Etc, will no longer have a reason to hide the coffins coming back home from
> the people who paid for them all.
> 
> Give people with names like Bush, Cheney, Rice, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rove,
> Rumsfeld, Etc a gun and put them on the ground 10,000 miles away.
> 
> All wars everywhere will end overnight.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheeseburger
> 
> - Stop "For God and Country" glory wars.  Remove the drivers.
> 
> .
> 
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